The discussion took place at the Seamen's Club Resort on Ishigaki Island, Okinawa. A resort hotel, facing the quiet inlet of Sukuji Beach near the famous sightseeing spot of Kabira Bay situated on the western part of the island.

This resort hotel is owned by Mr. W, a president of a company listed on the first section of the market, who was kind enough to provide Kitombo a financial support. He has also supported us in accommodations and many other ways relative to this project.

Members other than myself arrived on Ishigaki Island the day before to start the discussion from the morning. Finishing up my work, I joined them from the afternoon session.

The plane arrived on Ishigaki Island little behind time at past 1pm. The weather was surprisingly hot! It definitely was not a weather one would expect when November was approaching the next day. Feeling that Japan is larger than one would imagine from its area size, I headed for the hotel. The only problem (may also be the nice point) of this hotel is that it is far from the airport and the downtown area.

About 30 minutes ride by the taxi took me to the lobby of the hotel that was constructed in the image of petit resort seen in southern Europe. The hotel is situated in a excellent environment with mangrove woods spreading outside the lobby. And beyond it, is the Sukuji beach. Seeing that the Bar Palmier is open, I quickly checked myself in.

I wanted to enjoy a drink or two at the bar, but controlled myself and headed for the discussion. The discussion was being held at the restaurant Josephine, which was closed for the season and therefore was chartered by us.

Mr. Mikami was the master of the meeting. I joined them when Mr. Daichi and Mr. @Suzuki were raising questions. To tell you the truth, I never had an acquaintance with Dr. Mozai before. After a short introduction, I joined the discussion.

The topics of the day's discussion were "ancient voyage and cultural interchange" for the morning session and "the voyage and cultural exchange of Jomon people" for the afternoon session.

Following is a brief summary of the contents of the discussion with Dr. Mozai.

1. The voyages and cultural exchange during the historic times varied greatly, and no simple answer can be made regarding the origin of Japanese. Japan is a country of united people. In other words, Japan is an union of states. Supporting such theory are the various ways of counting numbers used in Japan. Ichi, Ni, San, ShiÉ.are just like those of Tibet. Hi, Fu, Mi, Yo Éor Hitotsu, Futatsu, MittsuÉare methods influenced by Hebrew. It is obvious that many Jews arrived in Japan during antiquity and things like Shinto developed under its influence. Living together with Jewish people for a while, one would be surprised to see how similar they are with the Japanese.
2. The famous Jomon site, Sannnai-maruyama, was not a village among the mountains but a port. The evidence supporting this is the location called Northern Valley. It is not a natural made valley but an artificial inlet. Mozai suggested the possibility of further valley and actually spotted it. The Northern Valley was fixed as an inlet to the sea and played a role as an international port open to the world.
3. Jomon people had the knowledge of a catamaran ship. But the definition of catamaran itself was misunderstood. A raft is also a fine catamaran. There is high possibility that rafts were used during prehistoric era, but some Jomon people show clear traces of trading in wide areas by ships. The fact that no large-scale ship of Jomon era has been discovered can't be the evidence to show they did not own one.
4. It is highly possible that Jomon people arrived on the American continent by way of Japan Current. Being carried on the Japan Current, one would probably reach somewhere between southern Canada and the West Coast of the U.S.A. Ecuador of South America where Valdivian pottery, very similar with the Jomon pottery, are found can be easily reached by riding on the countercurrent of Japan Current near Panama
5. The Ketsujo letters and straw calculation used in Okinawa and the qhipu of South America were not developed separately but coincidentally. It is more likely to think they had some connection with each other.

We decided to take an hour recess before the dinner. And where did I headed for? Of course, to the Lobby bar, Palmier. The atmosphere is just excellent! And inside the counter is a cute-looking Ms. Bartender shaking the shaker.

Taking a seat at the counter, I ordered, "Margarita, please." But she apologized. "I'm sorry the bar will be closed at 5pm to prepare for the night. You only have 10 minutes but is it all right with you?" In my mind, I screamed "What? Oh, come on!" But I ordered anyway, drank it down in a single draft.

We had dinner at a place called Funakura, a classy Okinawa restaurant that seemed very expensive. There, tofu was served.

It was an Okinawa dish where tofu was fermented in red Koji. It matched greatly with Awamori.

We had planned to observe the stars at night. But unfortunately or not, the sky was covered with clouds. So, we headed again to Palmier. While the earnest members continued their discussion at the table, Mr. Mikami and myself took up seats at the counter.

"I'm a Pushtun! I was drifted to this place from Afghanistan just today!" While Mr. Mikami talked nonsense to introduce himself, I again ordered Margarita. Margarita in a comfortable situation really tastes good!

I glanced at the members of the still continuing heated debate and caught an eye with Mr. @Suzuki.

He comes straight to the counter. He must have been waiting for some chance to escape from the discussion. Well, no body called you!!

Mr. @Suzuki says "I feel good today. I had a terrific day!" Oh, you liar. You caught cold and were in a terrible condition just a few hours ago.

In the end, every member of Kitombo, one after another, came over to the counter and chatted with Ms. Bartender.

Translated by Rie Ishida